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Post by defensewins on Apr 17, 2018 15:57:46 GMT -5
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 17, 2018 16:20:22 GMT -5
AFU pulled out, going to wait for the dust to settle and see how the leagues does AFU didnt pull out, they were not invited
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 17, 2018 16:21:12 GMT -5
So if LSA and Tophat merge, does that mean LSA girls need to commute to Atlanta for practice? Its not a merge. It's an alliance for the girls side
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Post by soccerdaddy on Apr 17, 2018 16:21:48 GMT -5
Is tomorrow is the announcement???
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 17, 2018 16:23:54 GMT -5
There was a meeting today , they're hoping to make an official announcement in the next week or two.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 17, 2018 18:05:59 GMT -5
So if LSA and Tophat merge, does that mean LSA girls need to commute to Atlanta for practice? Its not a merge. It's an alliance for the girls side 1) it would be highly unlikely that they have to go to Atlanta for practice. That would defeat the purpose from LSA's point of view. They wanted better opportunities for the girls. I think they want some more retention of players. They lose a lot with time to AFU, UFA and Concorde North. They will practice at Allen Creek still 2) for Soccermom, I know it is for the girls side only, but how exactly is an alliance different from a merger? Curious because they will wear Tophat uniforms and be called Tophat Sharks so pretty similar to Tophat QP or Tophat MN. So what is the difference? Not being snarky.
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Post by soccerdaddy on Apr 17, 2018 18:13:47 GMT -5
The suspense is killing me. Curious to see how the 5 clubs present the SCCL?
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 17, 2018 18:22:00 GMT -5
The suspense is killing me. Curious to see how the 5 clubs present the SCCL? LOL! Me too! And the details of how it will be run!
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Apr 18, 2018 7:33:49 GMT -5
the whole point of the merger of LSA and Tophat from LSA perspective is an attempt to keep their elite level players, usually 1 or 2 per year, in LSA academy though U12 to stay and not lose them earlier to other competitive clubs. With LSA not having DA or ECNL options, the best players have felt the 'had to leave' to get in the pipeline for those oppportunties. With this allliance, those players can stay close to home up through U12 and then have a pipeline to tophat. Tophat benefits from having a built in recruiting pipeline to hall county, north Gwinnet county and north Georgia players. Also, Tophat players who just miss the cut for ecnl will have an option to play RPL at LSA.
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Post by rantingsoccerdad on Apr 18, 2018 8:02:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 9:16:22 GMT -5
No. It's an alliance not a merger. I know three girls off that team and the coach. Kids in that area will NOT travel that far to be with a RPL team. As long as they stay RPL, there is no need to merge/commute. They will get plenty of exposure. My daughter played that team twice--and though it is very top heavy with talent (about 5 girls are way above everyone else), three of those girls are as good or better than most girls on DA teams. As long as they stay together they will be tough.
It just happens to have a demographic where those girls can't afford that type of commute or either see no need in saying they a "part of Tophat".......because they already beat tophat.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 9:20:53 GMT -5
SoccerMom, AFU was invited. AFU and CF were two of the initial members who started toying around with the idea of Champions' League. They did not like the way the model was playing out.
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Post by soccerfutbolfam on Apr 18, 2018 9:49:31 GMT -5
SoccerMom, AFU was invited. AFU and CF were two of the initial members who started toying around with the idea of Champions' League. They did not like the way the model was playing out. I have to support soccermom in this. Based on something I was told - AFU was not allowed to join. They seem to be the odd man out across the board, not just the 'big 5' but the other clubs as well. Hopefully, the kids - at all of the clubs will benefit and adults won't let their pride get in the way.
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 18, 2018 10:03:43 GMT -5
SoccerMom, AFU was invited. AFU and CF were two of the initial members who started toying around with the idea of Champions' League. They did not like the way the model was playing out. I have to support soccermom in this. Based on something I was told - AFU was not allowed to join. They seem to be the odd man out across the board, not just the 'big 5' but the other clubs as well. Hopefully, the kids - at all of the clubs will benefit and adults won't let their pride get in the way. Correct, that is what heard. that AFU was in the original group but then pushed out by the other clubs. They just don't work well with others is what I heard
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 18, 2018 10:07:17 GMT -5
No. It's an alliance not a merger. I know three girls off that team and the coach. Kids in that area will NOT travel that far to be with a RPL team. As long as they stay RPL, there is no need to merge/commute. They will get plenty of exposure. My daughter played that team twice--and though it is very top heavy with talent (about 5 girls are way above everyone else), three of those girls are as good or better than most girls on DA teams. As long as they stay together they will be tough. It just happens to have a demographic where those girls can't afford that type of commute or either see no need in saying they a "part of Tophat".......because they already beat tophat. They beat TH? Which age group and which team?? I have no idea on the talent at LSA girls, our top team never played them so I cant say whether they are good or not. I also have no idea how they did against our 2nd or 3rd teams.
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Post by rantingsoccerdad on Apr 18, 2018 11:20:38 GMT -5
So no announcement today?
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Apr 18, 2018 11:56:55 GMT -5
No. It's an alliance not a merger. I know three girls off that team and the coach. Kids in that area will NOT travel that far to be with a RPL team. As long as they stay RPL, there is no need to merge/commute. They will get plenty of exposure. My daughter played that team twice--and though it is very top heavy with talent (about 5 girls are way above everyone else), three of those girls are as good or better than most girls on DA teams. As long as they stay together they will be tough. It just happens to have a demographic where those girls can't afford that type of commute or either see no need in saying they a "part of Tophat".......because they already beat tophat. I believe bigdawg is specifically citing the U13 RPl team but this team's success is an outlier and they have been the only age group able to hold on to their players. The Tophat alliance is because of the struggles at the other age levels and tophat gains from yet another area to grab the best players from.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 18, 2018 13:06:21 GMT -5
AFU pulled out, going to wait for the dust to settle and see how the leagues does AFU didnt pull out, they were not invited Actually, AFU did pull out, but by choice though, they were one of the two dynamic duos floating this idea. I think it was partially because they thought they were as big(in stature) as the other clubs and wanted to drive things.
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Post by soccerdaddy on Apr 18, 2018 17:00:50 GMT -5
I take it no one from any of the big five have heard anything today?
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Post by soccerworld on Apr 18, 2018 17:14:15 GMT -5
And why is this preferable to the new RPl format which was just announced today? Seems on paper this league will be inferior and quality could be highly questionable as each club will “decide” which teams compete in this league.
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Post by atlsoccer on Apr 18, 2018 17:21:13 GMT -5
And why is this preferable to the new RPl format which was just announced today? Seems on paper this league will be inferior and quality could be highly questionable as each club will “decide” which teams compete in this league. what was announced and where was it announced?
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Post by soccerworld on Apr 18, 2018 17:23:10 GMT -5
And why is this preferable to the new RPl format which was just announced today? Seems on paper this league will be inferior and quality could be highly questionable as each club will “decide” which teams compete in this league. what was announced and where was it announced? gasoccerforum.com/thread/2870/new-youth-national-leagues
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 18, 2018 17:31:06 GMT -5
No. It's an alliance not a merger. I know three girls off that team and the coach. Kids in that area will NOT travel that far to be with a RPL team. As long as they stay RPL, there is no need to merge/commute. They will get plenty of exposure. My daughter played that team twice--and though it is very top heavy with talent (about 5 girls are way above everyone else), three of those girls are as good or better than most girls on DA teams. As long as they stay together they will be tough. It just happens to have a demographic where those girls can't afford that type of commute or either see no need in saying they a "part of Tophat".......because they already beat tophat. I believe bigdawg is specifically citing the U13 RPl team but this team's success is an outlier and they have been the only age group able to hold on to their players. The Tophat alliance is because of the struggles at the other age levels and tophat gains from yet another area to grab the best players from. I also believe he is talking about the U13 who beat Tophat in RPL but did lose to that team during the Athena A schedule. In between those games Tophat Gold (the second team) lost their leading scorer who moved up to ECNL. LSA gained two U14 girls who were 05 girls playing up. That age group is a very good team though I don't know if you can claim they have "held onto their players" since the team looks very different than before the age group change. They have both added to and lost kids who played on the 05/06 team. One of the girls they added was one of the girls referred to as being one of the ones who could play DA. There are 3 who could potentially make a DA team and one is a 06 playing up. That is not however the only good age group. The 03 team is also very strong and has remained whole since the age group change and before. I will dispute that kids won't leave that club for better pastures though. Someone said something about the demographic not going to drive to Tophat. Several have left for Tophat. All of them left during the Academy ages. Others left later for other clubs, but most do leave in academy ages, usually U11 to U12 age. The first ever LSA girl to make ODP left for UFA. Another star 04 left for Concorde Central. Another 04 left for UFA Norcross to play up an age group. Another 04 left for Tophat. A few years ago another 04 left for Tophat. An 08 left this year for Tophat and plays on 07 Gold. An 07 left for AFU top team. An 06 left for AFU top team. An 06 left for AFU second team. An 06 left for Concorde North. An 05 who is on that team left for AFU second team two years ago and came back. An 05 left for UFA. All of these except one is within the last two years. For the most part they lose more than they keep. It is one reason why they have only one team for girls per age group. The club has a lot to offer. The alliance with Tophat will hopefully retain more academy kids and that will help them be stronger in the older age groups. It is not only a girls problem though. Two really strong boys left last year. One for NASA ECNL and one for Concorde SRPL.
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Post by soccerdaddy on Apr 18, 2018 18:01:24 GMT -5
Sorry what does this have to do with Big 5 Southern Club Champions League? No RPL, no ECNL, no National League or DA. Just SCCL right? What’s going down is RPL is going away as Soccerhouse postedearlier - gasoccerforum.com/thread/2870/new-youth-national-leaguesSo, what and when are the Big 5 announcing their plans for the upcoming season?
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Post by atlsoccer on Apr 18, 2018 18:17:48 GMT -5
Sorry what does this have to do with Big 5 Southern Club Champions League? No RPL, no ECNL, no National League or DA. Just SCCL right? What’s going down is RPL is going away as Soccerhouse postedearlier - gasoccerforum.com/thread/2870/new-youth-national-leaguesSo, what and when are the Big 5 announcing their plans for the upcoming season? I think this has a lot to do with SCCL. 1) The SCCL is said to be formed because of complaints about the structure and travel required by RPL, which this changes. 2) Several teams in each age group at the big five are being will be forced out of RPL to SCCL or even to Classic 1 or Athena A. I imagine at least some of those teams will leave or consider leaving the big five for opportunities in this restructured league. I do not know how much different this is from the current format, so I guess time will tell.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 18, 2018 18:44:43 GMT -5
Sorry what does this have to do with Big 5 Southern Club Champions League? No RPL, no ECNL, no National League or DA. Just SCCL right? What’s going down is RPL is going away as Soccerhouse postedearlier - gasoccerforum.com/thread/2870/new-youth-national-leaguesSo, what and when are the Big 5 announcing their plans for the upcoming season? If you are referring to the LSA discussion, it is applicable because of the LSA Tophat alliance and questions about whether that team will do RPL (or whatever the new US Youth soccer National league other division is called) or SCCL. What will the big 5 do with their other locations (including Tophat Sharks AKA LSA)? Has anyone heard anything about secondary locations and teams being included?
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Post by dad on Apr 18, 2018 19:00:06 GMT -5
Does anyone have info on the new "Piedmont Confrence"? How many teams?
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 18, 2018 21:14:05 GMT -5
Sorry what does this have to do with Big 5 Southern Club Champions League? No RPL, no ECNL, no National League or DA. Just SCCL right? What’s going down is RPL is going away as Soccerhouse postedearlier - gasoccerforum.com/thread/2870/new-youth-national-leaguesSo, what and when are the Big 5 announcing their plans for the upcoming season? 1 to 2 weeks is what I heard. But there will also be another interesting announcement next week
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 18, 2018 21:16:19 GMT -5
AFU didnt pull out, they were not invited Actually, AFU did pull out, but by choice though, they were one of the two dynamic duos floating this idea. I think it was partially because they thought they were as big(in stature) as the other clubs and wanted to drive things. Well I heard it from two diff DOCs. One from the big 5 and one from not the big 5. Also all the other clubs not from the big 5 have formed an alliance...and they also excluded AFU. AFU has made too many enemies and now they are in their own island by themselves
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Post by atlsoccer on Apr 18, 2018 21:22:05 GMT -5
Sorry what does this have to do with Big 5 Southern Club Champions League? No RPL, no ECNL, no National League or DA. Just SCCL right? What’s going down is RPL is going away as Soccerhouse postedearlier - gasoccerforum.com/thread/2870/new-youth-national-leaguesSo, what and when are the Big 5 announcing their plans for the upcoming season? 1 to 2 weeks is what I heard. But there will also be another interesting announcement next week Regarding?
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